Vergleichen Sie Fleep und Private Discuss nach Funktionen, Rechtsraum, Nachweisen und Einsatzpassung.
Beide als Alternativen zu: Microsoft Teams, Slack
Estonia· Groupware
Needs review
Shortlist when you want an Estonian-operated messenger that mixes team chat with real email participation, light task/pin/file tools, and Business-side account ownership. Skip when you need E2EE, self-hosting, or a deep enterprise app marketplace — consider Nextcloud Talk (self-host) or Slack/Teams instead.
France· Groupware
Needs review
Shortlist when you need a French-entity suite combining large secure video/webinars, E2EE messaging, co-editing, and strong admin controls with SaaS or on-premise options for government and sensitive business. Skip when you require open source, published independent crypto audits, or deep Microsoft 365/Slack ecosystem integration—consider Nextcloud Talk or ginlo Business instead.
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| Merkmal | Fleep | Private Discuss |
|---|---|---|
| Herkunftsland | Estonia | France |
| Kategorie | Groupware | Groupware |
| Open Source | Nein | Nein |
| Self-Hosted | Nein | Ja |
| Hauptsitz | Estonia | France |
| Rechtsträger | Fleep Technologies OÜ (registry code 12373841), Akadeemia tee 21/4, Tallinn, Estonia | PRIVATE DISCUSS SAS, 304 Route Nationale 6, 69760 Limonest; RCS Lyon 828 242 545; VAT FR91 828 242 545 (legal notices / GTS). Privacy policy also cites RCS 829 105 741—confirm live registry extract. |
| Anwendbares Recht | Republic of Estonia (Tallinn courts per Terms) | Nicht angegeben |
| US-Mutter / Kontrolle | Keine bekannte US-Mutter | Keine bekannte US-Mutter |
| CLOUD-Act-Exposition (indikativ) | Mittel | Niedrig |
| Hosting / Residenz | Primary app data on Amazon Web Services EC2 in Dublin, Ireland (vendor About + security help). Privacy policy: AWS in EU territory. Also names Braintree/PayPal (payments), Google Analytics and Mixpanel (analytics), MailChimp/US for marketing email. Full processor list on request only. | Product privacy/GTS: encrypted message stores hosted in France; personal data hosted in the EU without transfer outside the EU. Public website storage: OVH SAS, Roubaix, France. SaaS vs on-premise changes who operates the stack. No complete public SaaS subprocessor inventory (backup, email, analytics, mobile push) found. |
| Zusammenfassung | Estonian team messenger that combines chat with email bridging, conversation tasks, pinboards, file sharing, and Business admin ownership of accounts and history. | French secure collaboration suite from Limonest (Lyon area): E2EE video, webinars, messaging, co-editing, and admin controls for government and sensitive organisations, with SaaS or on-premise deployment. |
| Tags |
| Auf einen Blick | Fleep | Private Discuss |
|---|---|---|
| HQ | Tallinn, Estonia | Limonest (Lyon area), France |
| Legal entity | Fleep Technologies OÜ (reg. 12373841) | PRIVATE DISCUSS SAS (RCS Lyon 828 242 545) |
| Hosting (claimed) | AWS EC2, Dublin, Ireland | France/EU for product data; public site on OVH Roubaix |
| Deployment | SaaS only (not self-hosted) | SaaS, on-premise / private cloud, air-gapped (claimed) |
| Open source | No (proprietary; API samples on GitHub) | No (proprietary) |
| Commercial model | Free trial; seat-based Business; Enterprise custom | Plans with host-based billing; free and paid tiers referenced; demo/sales for enterprise |
| Key capabilities | Fleep | Private Discuss |
|---|---|---|
| EU-operated (EE) | Ja | Ja |
| Email bridging | Ja | Nicht angegeben |
| Cloud SaaS | Ja | Nicht angegeben |
| AWS EU hosting (claimed) | Ja | Nicht angegeben |
| Business admin controls | Ja | Nicht angegeben |
| E2EE (vendor claimed) | Nicht angegeben | Ja |
| France/EU hosting (claimed) | Nicht angegeben | Ja |
| On-premise option | Nicht angegeben | Ja |
| Up to 1,000 video / 1M webinars | Nicht angegeben | Ja |
| Not open source | Nicht angegeben | Ja |
Email-bridged conversations
Send to a conversation's unique email address, receive on username@fleep.io, create email threads with non-users, or connect an existing mailbox so external partners stay in the same work stream without mandatory Fleep accounts.
Taskboard per conversation
Create, assign, and track tasks inside the same conversation where decisions happen; Business adds a My tasks view across work. Suited to light coordination, not a full project-management suite.
Pinboard and File Drawer
Pin announcements so plans do not drown in scrollback; store and re-open shared files from a conversation-level drawer across web, desktop, and mobile.
Fleep for Business admin ownership
Organization admins control Premium accounts and conversations—provision/deactivate users, reset passwords, manage membership and history access, set file retention, organization-wide teams, and company branding.
API, webhooks, and app integrations
Public API for post/read of messages and files plus listed integrations (e.g. GitHub, GitLab, Jira, Zapier, Dropbox, Whereby for A/V). Not a self-hosted product.
HD video meetings up to 1,000 participants
Vendor features and contact pages state secure HD audio/video conferences for up to 1,000 participants with screen sharing, virtual backgrounds, collaborative whiteboard, breakout rooms, live polls/voting, and in-meeting electronic signature—aimed at executive and sensitive operational meetings rather than consumer calls.
Large-scale webinars with role and recording control
Webinar tooling includes organiser/presenter/participant roles, granular permissions (present, share, record, content access), interactive stage, moderated hand-raise, secure chat/reactions, and HD recording with encrypted storage and controlled access. Contact materials claim capacity up to 1 million participants for large virtual events.
E2EE messaging, files, and co-editing in one suite
Instant messaging covers 1:1 and group/channel chat with presence and mentions; secure file and media sharing (up to 20 GB per message via PiTransfer per marketing); cloud co-editing and a document library for sensitive document workflows. Security pages claim non-disableable E2EE, AES-256 for real-time calls, and RSA-2048 for file sharing.
Sovereign deployment: SaaS, on-prem, or air-gapped
Hosting options include fully managed cloud SaaS, on-premise/private servers behind the customer firewall, and use cases marketed for air-gapped or constrained networks. Privacy policy states encrypted message storage on servers hosted in France; GTS state EU hosting without transfer outside the EU for personal data in scope.
Admin suite, kill switch, and policy controls
Administration covers local/regional admin roles, user and group management, time-based access, contact and file-sharing authorisations, activity monitoring, minimum client version enforcement, MFA, geographic access limits, custom retention, and remote revoke/wipe language for compromised devices—built for security teams governing a closed network.
In-house AI tools for identity and translation
Marketed AI features include deepfake/identity verification using camera, microphone, and device signals; real-time meeting translation; Private Translate for sensitive text/documents without content leaving customer infrastructure; and an AI companion for transcription, decisions, and post-meeting summaries—positioned for closed environments rather than public LLM APIs.
| Assurance & compliance | Fleep | Private Discuss |
|---|---|---|
| Independent security / no-logs audit | Not found No public independent audit report located on official site or help center. | Not found No public independent audit PDF or third-party crypto review located on official site. |
| ISO 27001 | Not found No ISO 27001 claim found on official pages. | Not found Hosting marketing mentions ISO-certified infrastructure generically; no certificate number or cert PDF found on public pages. |
| SOC 2 / SOC 3 | Not found No SOC 2/3 report or claim found on official pages. | Not found Not found on security, legal, or privacy pages. |
| GDPR / EU data protection | Vendor claimed EE entity; public privacy policy; AKI as supervisory authority. Confirm DPA and processing roles for your use case. | Vendor claimed French controller/processor framing, CNIL notification language, DPO contact, EU hosting/no extra-EU transfer statements in GTS/privacy. Not legal advice. |
| US CLOUD Act exposure (indicative) | Partial EU entity, no known US parent, but primary hosting on AWS and US-group analytics/payment/marketing tools (GA, Mixpanel, Braintree/PayPal, MailChimp). Not legal advice. | Partial French SAS, no known US parent, France/EU hosting claims and OVH for website. No public full subprocessor list for SaaS; marketing 'CLOUD Act free' language applies mainly to customer-controlled/on-prem narratives. Assessment only—not legal advice. |
| Data processing agreement (B2B) | Not found No public DPA template found. Privacy policy offers updated authorized-processor list on contact—ask sales/support for DPA. | Partial Privacy policy references SaaS licence agreement with data-protection clauses when acting as processor; standalone public DPA download not found. |
| EU AI Act | Not applicable Team messenger; not marketed as an AI system. | Unknown Product markets deepfake detection, translation, and AI companion features; no public AI Act classification or conformity materials found. |
| Considerations & known limitations | Fleep | Private Discuss |
|---|---|---|
| US-group cloud and SaaS subprocessors | Medium Message storage on AWS (Dublin claimed) plus Google Analytics, Mixpanel, payment processors, and MailChimp (US marketing mail). Affects CLOUD Act / transfer diligence even with EE legal entity. | Nicht angegeben |
| No public ISO/SOC or independent audit | Medium Assurance package for regulated buyers is thin on the public site; expect questionnaire and contractual annexes rather than downloadable certs. | Nicht angegeben |
| Server-side encryption, not E2EE | Medium TLS + encrypted storage on provider servers; unsuitable if policy requires client-held keys or provider-blind messaging. | Nicht angegeben |
| Privacy/Terms last dated 2019 on site | Low Public privacy (Mar 2019) and terms (Jan 2019) may lag operational reality—confirm current policy versions and subprocessors during procurement. | Nicht angegeben |
| No self-host option | Low Cannot place Fleep inside your own VPC or air-gapped network; residency limited to vendor AWS EU setup. | Nicht angegeben |
| No public independent security audit | Nicht angegeben | Medium Strong encryption and zero-knowledge claims are first-party only. Security-sensitive buyers should require audit reports, architecture review, and pilot verification before treating E2EE as proven. |
| Incomplete public SaaS subprocessor inventory | Nicht angegeben | Medium France/EU hosting is claimed, but backup, email, analytics, and mobile push processors are not fully listed publicly. Residual transfer and support-access risk for managed SaaS must be closed in the customer DPA. |
| RCS number inconsistency on public pages | Nicht angegeben | Low Legal notices and GTS use RCS 828 242 545; privacy policy cites 829 105 741. Confirm legal identity via official registry extract before contracting. |
| Closed proprietary platform | Nicht angegeben | Low Not open source; GTS emphasise vendor IP. Limits community audit and exit options compared with OSS collab stacks such as Nextcloud. |
| AI features need separate diligence | Nicht angegeben | Medium Deepfake detection, Private Translate, and AI companion expand the evaluation surface (model location, training data, false positives). Vendor claims on-prem/private processing for some features—verify architecture per deployment mode. |
When: You need self-hosted collaboration chat with full control of infrastructure
Consider: Nextcloud (Talk) or other self-hosted groupware already in your stack
Fleep is SaaS-only on AWS EU.
When: You need deep Microsoft 365 chat, meetings, and identity integration
Consider: Microsoft Teams
Fleep is independent of M365 but thinner on meetings/Graph.
When: You need the largest integration marketplace and channel-centric workflows
Consider: Slack
Fleep competes on email bridging and simplicity, not ecosystem breadth.
When: You want hosted European groupware with mail/calendar as the core
Consider: Kolab Now
Different product shape: groupware suite vs messenger-first.
When: You already run self-hosted files/groupware and want open-source Talk-style meetings under your keys
Consider: Nextcloud (Talk)
Broader OSS hub; different security and UX model than Private Discuss’s proprietary stack
When: You primarily need German-entity encrypted business messaging with AD/LDAP cockpit, not large webinars
Consider: ginlo Business
Narrower A/V scale; strong messenger admin story
When: You need everyday team chat with email bridging rather than government-scale secure video
Consider: Fleep
Estonian messenger positioning; different threat model and feature depth