Kolab Now
Switzerland· Groupware
Confronta Kolab Now e Private Discuss su capacità, giurisdizione, garanzie e idoneità per acquirenti europei.
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Switzerland· Groupware
France· Groupware
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Shortlist when you need a French-entity suite combining large secure video/webinars, E2EE messaging, co-editing, and strong admin controls with SaaS or on-premise options for government and sensitive business. Skip when you require open source, published independent crypto audits, or deep Microsoft 365/Slack ecosystem integration—consider Nextcloud Talk or ginlo Business instead.
Le righe evidenziate differiscono tra i due prodotti.
| Caratteristica | ||
|---|---|---|
| Paese di origine | ||
| Categoria | Groupware | Groupware |
| Open source | Sì | No |
| Self-hosted | No | Sì |
| Sede | Non indicato | France |
| Soggetto giuridico | Non indicato | PRIVATE DISCUSS SAS, 304 Route Nationale 6, 69760 Limonest; RCS Lyon 828 242 545; VAT FR91 828 242 545 (legal notices / GTS). Privacy policy also cites RCS 829 105 741—confirm live registry extract. |
| Capogruppo / controllo USA | Non indicato | Nessuna capogruppo USA nota |
| Esposizione CLOUD Act (indicativa) | Non indicato | Basso |
| Hosting / residenza | Non indicato | Product privacy/GTS: encrypted message stores hosted in France; personal data hosted in the EU without transfer outside the EU. Public website storage: OVH SAS, Roubaix, France. SaaS vs on-premise changes who operates the stack. No complete public SaaS subprocessor inventory (backup, email, analytics, mobile push) found. |
| Riassunto | Swiss-hosted FOSS Kolab groupware from Apheleia IT AG: email, calendars, contacts, files and optional Collabora collab on operator infrastructure in Bern. | French secure collaboration suite from Limonest (Lyon area): E2EE video, webinars, messaging, co-editing, and admin controls for government and sensitive organisations, with SaaS or on-premise deployment. |
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| A colpo d'occhio | ||
|---|---|---|
| HQ | Non indicato | Limonest (Lyon area), France |
| Legal entity | Non indicato | PRIVATE DISCUSS SAS (RCS Lyon 828 242 545) |
| Deployment | Non indicato | SaaS, on-premise / private cloud, air-gapped (claimed) |
| Hosting (claimed) | Non indicato | France/EU for product data; public site on OVH Roubaix |
| Open source | Non indicato | No (proprietary) |
| Commercial model | Non indicato | Plans with host-based billing; free and paid tiers referenced; demo/sales for enterprise |
| Key capabilities | ||
|---|---|---|
| EU-operated (France) | Non indicato | Sì |
| E2EE (vendor claimed) | Non indicato | Sì |
| France/EU hosting (claimed) | Non indicato | Sì |
| On-premise option | Non indicato | Sì |
| Up to 1,000 video / 1M webinars | Non indicato | Sì |
| Not open source | Non indicato | Sì |
Email con filtraggio avanzato
Viste email threadate e filtraggio Sieve lato server. Regole via interfaccia web o script. Identità multiple e interfacce personalizzabili.
Sync calendario, contatti e attività
Calendari con pianificazione libero/occupato. Sync via ActiveSync (Android, iOS, BlackBerry) o CalDAV/CardDAV. Client nativi KDE Kontact su Linux, Windows, macOS.
Storage e condivisione file
Storage file sicuro con controlli accesso granulari. Editing collaborativo via Collabora Online; sale videoconferenza per team.
HD video meetings up to 1,000 participants
Vendor features and contact pages state secure HD audio/video conferences for up to 1,000 participants with screen sharing, virtual backgrounds, collaborative whiteboard, breakout rooms, live polls/voting, and in-meeting electronic signature—aimed at executive and sensitive operational meetings rather than consumer calls.
Large-scale webinars with role and recording control
Webinar tooling includes organiser/presenter/participant roles, granular permissions (present, share, record, content access), interactive stage, moderated hand-raise, secure chat/reactions, and HD recording with encrypted storage and controlled access. Contact materials claim capacity up to 1 million participants for large virtual events.
E2EE messaging, files, and co-editing in one suite
Instant messaging covers 1:1 and group/channel chat with presence and mentions; secure file and media sharing (up to 20 GB per message via PiTransfer per marketing); cloud co-editing and a document library for sensitive document workflows. Security pages claim non-disableable E2EE, AES-256 for real-time calls, and RSA-2048 for file sharing.
Sovereign deployment: SaaS, on-prem, or air-gapped
Hosting options include fully managed cloud SaaS, on-premise/private servers behind the customer firewall, and use cases marketed for air-gapped or constrained networks. Privacy policy states encrypted message storage on servers hosted in France; GTS state EU hosting without transfer outside the EU for personal data in scope.
Admin suite, kill switch, and policy controls
Administration covers local/regional admin roles, user and group management, time-based access, contact and file-sharing authorisations, activity monitoring, minimum client version enforcement, MFA, geographic access limits, custom retention, and remote revoke/wipe language for compromised devices—built for security teams governing a closed network.
In-house AI tools for identity and translation
Marketed AI features include deepfake/identity verification using camera, microphone, and device signals; real-time meeting translation; Private Translate for sensitive text/documents without content leaving customer infrastructure; and an AI companion for transcription, decisions, and post-meeting summaries—positioned for closed environments rather than public LLM APIs.
| Assurance & compliance | ||
|---|---|---|
| Independent security / crypto audit | Non indicato | Not found No public independent audit PDF or third-party crypto review located on official site. |
| ISO 27001 | Non indicato | Not found Hosting marketing mentions ISO-certified infrastructure generically; no certificate number or cert PDF found on public pages. |
| SOC 2 / SOC 3 | Non indicato | Not found Not found on security, legal, or privacy pages. |
| GDPR / EU data protection | Non indicato | Vendor claimed French controller/processor framing, CNIL notification language, DPO contact, EU hosting/no extra-EU transfer statements in GTS/privacy. Not legal advice. |
| US CLOUD Act exposure (indicative) | Non indicato | Partial French SAS, no known US parent, France/EU hosting claims and OVH for website. No public full subprocessor list for SaaS; marketing 'CLOUD Act free' language applies mainly to customer-controlled/on-prem narratives. Assessment only—not legal advice. |
| Data processing agreement (B2B) | Non indicato | Partial Privacy policy references SaaS licence agreement with data-protection clauses when acting as processor; standalone public DPA download not found. |
| EU AI Act | Non indicato | Unknown Product markets deepfake detection, translation, and AI companion features; no public AI Act classification or conformity materials found. |
| Considerations & known limitations | ||
|---|---|---|
| No public independent security audit | Non indicato | Medium Strong encryption and zero-knowledge claims are first-party only. Security-sensitive buyers should require audit reports, architecture review, and pilot verification before treating E2EE as proven. |
| Incomplete public SaaS subprocessor inventory | Non indicato | Medium France/EU hosting is claimed, but backup, email, analytics, and mobile push processors are not fully listed publicly. Residual transfer and support-access risk for managed SaaS must be closed in the customer DPA. |
| RCS number inconsistency on public pages | Non indicato | Low Legal notices and GTS use RCS 828 242 545; privacy policy cites 829 105 741. Confirm legal identity via official registry extract before contracting. |
| Closed proprietary platform | Non indicato | Low Not open source; GTS emphasise vendor IP. Limits community audit and exit options compared with OSS collab stacks such as Nextcloud. |
| AI features need separate diligence | Non indicato | Medium Deepfake detection, Private Translate, and AI companion expand the evaluation surface (model location, training data, false positives). Vendor claims on-prem/private processing for some features—verify architecture per deployment mode. |
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When: You already run self-hosted files/groupware and want open-source Talk-style meetings under your keys
Consider: Nextcloud (Talk)
Broader OSS hub; different security and UX model than Private Discuss’s proprietary stack
When: You primarily need German-entity encrypted business messaging with AD/LDAP cockpit, not large webinars
Consider: ginlo Business
Narrower A/V scale; strong messenger admin story
When: You need everyday team chat with email bridging rather than government-scale secure video
Consider: Fleep
Estonian messenger positioning; different threat model and feature depth
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