Vergelijk Fleep en ginlo Business op mogelijkheden, rechtsgebied, waarborgen en geschiktheid voor Europese kopers.
Beide vermeld als alternatief voor: Microsoft Teams, Slack
Estonia· Groupware
Needs review
Shortlist when you want an Estonian-operated messenger that mixes team chat with real email participation, light task/pin/file tools, and Business-side account ownership. Skip when you need E2EE, self-hosting, or a deep enterprise app marketplace — consider Nextcloud Talk (self-host) or Slack/Teams instead.
Germany· Groupware
Needs review
Shortlist when you need a German-entity, Germany-hosted encrypted business messenger with Management Cockpit (AD/LDAP, policies, remote wipe) and free external reach via ginlo Private. Skip when you require open source, self-hosting, or published independent crypto audits—consider Wire or Nextcloud Talk instead.
Gemarkeerde rijen verschillen tussen de twee producten.
| Kenmerk | Fleep | ginlo Business |
|---|---|---|
| Land van herkomst | Estonia | Germany |
| Categorie | Groupware | Groupware |
| Open source | Nee | Nee |
| Self-hosted | Nee | Nee |
| Hoofdkantoor | Estonia | Germany |
| Juridische entiteit | Fleep Technologies OÜ (registry code 12373841), Akadeemia tee 21/4, Tallinn, Estonia | ginlo.net Gesellschaft für Datenkommunikationsdienste mbH (ginlo.net GmbH), Rupert-Mayer-Str. 44, 81379 Munich |
| Toepasselijk recht | Republic of Estonia (Tallinn courts per Terms) | Niet vermeld |
| VS-moeder / zeggenschap | Geen bekende VS-moeder | Geen bekende VS-moeder |
| CLOUD Act-blootstelling (indicatief) | Middel | Middel |
| Hosting / residentie | Primary app data on Amazon Web Services EC2 in Dublin, Ireland (vendor About + security help). Privacy policy: AWS in EU territory. Also names Braintree/PayPal (payments), Google Analytics and Mixpanel (analytics), MailChimp/US for marketing email. Full processor list on request only. | Vendor GTC require server and storage in a German computer centre certified to ISO 27001 based on BSI IT-Grundschutz; privacy notice states processors such as German data-centre operators, internet/line providers, and payment providers, and asserts no third-country processing by ginlo. Host operator names are not published. Mobile push uses platform channels (e.g. Apple Push Notification, Google Cloud Messaging) per GTC. |
| Samenvatting | Estonian team messenger that combines chat with email bridging, conversation tasks, pinboards, file sharing, and Business admin ownership of accounts and history. | German-hosted secure business messenger from Munich-based ginlo.net GmbH: E2EE chat, files, and A/V calls with Management Cockpit admin for AD/LDAP, policies, and external ginlo Private contacts. |
| Tags |
| In één oogopslag | Fleep | ginlo Business |
|---|---|---|
| HQ | Tallinn, Estonia | Munich, Germany |
| Legal entity | Fleep Technologies OÜ (reg. 12373841) | ginlo.net GmbH (HRB 254209) |
| Hosting (claimed) | AWS EC2, Dublin, Ireland | Niet vermeld |
| Deployment | SaaS only (not self-hosted) | Managed SaaS (not self-hosted) |
| Open source | No (proprietary; API samples on GitHub) | Niet vermeld |
| Commercial model | Free trial; seat-based Business; Enterprise custom | Seat licences; optional trial (see vendor for current terms) |
| Hosting (vendor claim) | Niet vermeld | Germany computer centre; no ginlo-initiated third-country transfer |
| Admin | Niet vermeld | Optional Management Cockpit (AD/LDAP/CSV, policies, MDM hooks) |
| Key capabilities | Fleep | ginlo Business |
|---|---|---|
| EU-operated (EE) | Ja | Ja |
| Email bridging | Ja | Niet vermeld |
| Cloud SaaS | Ja | Niet vermeld |
| AWS EU hosting (claimed) | Ja | Niet vermeld |
| Business admin controls | Ja | Niet vermeld |
| End-to-end encryption (claimed) | Niet vermeld | Ja |
| Germany hosting (claimed) | Niet vermeld | Ja |
| AD/LDAP admin cockpit | Niet vermeld | Ja |
| Managed SaaS | Niet vermeld | Ja |
| Not open source | Niet vermeld | Ja |
Email-bridged conversations
Send to a conversation's unique email address, receive on username@fleep.io, create email threads with non-users, or connect an existing mailbox so external partners stay in the same work stream without mandatory Fleep accounts.
Taskboard per conversation
Create, assign, and track tasks inside the same conversation where decisions happen; Business adds a My tasks view across work. Suited to light coordination, not a full project-management suite.
Pinboard and File Drawer
Pin announcements so plans do not drown in scrollback; store and re-open shared files from a conversation-level drawer across web, desktop, and mobile.
Fleep for Business admin ownership
Organization admins control Premium accounts and conversations—provision/deactivate users, reset passwords, manage membership and history access, set file retention, organization-wide teams, and company branding.
API, webhooks, and app integrations
Public API for post/read of messages and files plus listed integrations (e.g. GitHub, GitLab, Jira, Zapier, Dropbox, Whereby for A/V). Not a self-hosted product.
Full encryption design for chat and files
Vendor GTC describe a full-encryption architecture: no unencrypted messages stored on ginlo servers, decryption keys only on authorised messenger clients, and encryption in transit plus on devices and intermediate server storage. Practical for regulated orgs replacing email for sensitive threads—confirm cipher suite details in procurement docs.
Management Cockpit with AD/LDAP and MDM hooks
Central admin for licences, CSV/AD/LDAP user import, department keywords, password and attachment policies, corporate design, groups, and info channels. Leaver accounts can be blocked and communications deleted quickly when devices are lost—built for IT ops without requiring a messaging platform engineer.
Business to ginlo Private external bridge
Employees on paid Business seats can message external contacts on free ginlo Private without charging those outsiders. Suits practices, schools, and authorities that need secure outbound reach beyond the licensed tenant.
Multi-device sync, channels, and A/V conferences
Use up to ten devices per account with server-side sync while messages remain available; announcement/content channels for org-wide updates; audio/video conferences with screen sharing; self-deleting and scheduled messages plus QR identity checks and ginlo ID without exposing a phone number.
Germany-hosted managed service
Contracting party is ginlo.net GmbH in Munich; GTC require the server and storage in a German computer centre certified to ISO 27001 based on BSI IT-Grundschutz, with no ginlo-initiated third-country transfer. Managed SaaS only—no public self-host option.
| Assurance & compliance | Fleep | ginlo Business |
|---|---|---|
| Independent security / no-logs audit | Not found No public independent audit report located on official site or help center. | Not found Marketing mentions regular security audits; no public independent audit report located on vendor site. |
| ISO 27001 | Not found No ISO 27001 claim found on official pages. | Vendor claimed Claimed for the hosting computer centre based on IT-Grundschutz (BSI); no public certificate number/PDF found. |
| SOC 2 / SOC 3 | Not found No SOC 2/3 report or claim found on official pages. | Not found |
| GDPR / EU data protection | Vendor claimed EE entity; public privacy policy; AKI as supervisory authority. Confirm DPA and processing roles for your use case. | Vendor claimed EU/German entity; public privacy notice under GDPR; supervisory authority BayLDA referenced. |
| US CLOUD Act exposure (indicative) | Partial EU entity, no known US parent, but primary hosting on AWS and US-group analytics/payment/marketing tools (GA, Mixpanel, Braintree/PayPal, MailChimp). Not legal advice. | Partial German entity, no known US parent, Germany hosting claimed; residual exposure via APNs/FCM push paths and unnamed processors. Not legal advice. |
| Data processing agreement (B2B) | Not found No public DPA template found. Privacy policy offers updated authorized-processor list on contact—ask sales/support for DPA. | Not found Privacy policy published; standalone B2B DPA download not found on public site—confirm in procurement. |
| EU AI Act | Not applicable Team messenger; not marketed as an AI system. | Not applicable Secure messaging product; not AI-centric. |
| BSI IT-Grundschutz (hosting) | Niet vermeld | Vendor claimed ISO 27001 based on IT-Grundschutz claimed for data centre in marketing and GTC. |
| Considerations & known limitations | Fleep | ginlo Business |
|---|---|---|
| US-group cloud and SaaS subprocessors | Medium Message storage on AWS (Dublin claimed) plus Google Analytics, Mixpanel, payment processors, and MailChimp (US marketing mail). Affects CLOUD Act / transfer diligence even with EE legal entity. | Niet vermeld |
| No public ISO/SOC or independent audit | Medium Assurance package for regulated buyers is thin on the public site; expect questionnaire and contractual annexes rather than downloadable certs. | Niet vermeld |
| Server-side encryption, not E2EE | Medium TLS + encrypted storage on provider servers; unsuitable if policy requires client-held keys or provider-blind messaging. | Niet vermeld |
| Privacy/Terms last dated 2019 on site | Low Public privacy (Mar 2019) and terms (Jan 2019) may lag operational reality—confirm current policy versions and subprocessors during procurement. | Niet vermeld |
| No self-host option | Low Cannot place Fleep inside your own VPC or air-gapped network; residency limited to vendor AWS EU setup. | Niet vermeld |
| Limited public audit and cert artefacts | Niet vermeld | Medium ISO 27001/IT-Grundschutz and regular audits are vendor-asserted; no public audit PDF or cert registry entry found. Procurement should request evidence under NDA. |
| Closed managed SaaS only | Niet vermeld | Medium No self-host or open-source server path. Exit and independent verification depend on vendor cooperation and export tooling. |
| Mobile push via Apple/Google | Niet vermeld | Low GTC reference Apple Push Notification and Google Cloud Messaging for new-message signals. Content is claimed E2EE, but delivery metadata still touches US platform infrastructure. |
| Processors described by category only | Niet vermeld | Medium Privacy policy lists German data centres, line providers, and payment providers without naming operators. Harder to complete CLOUD Act / transfer diligence from public sources alone. |
| External parties must use ginlo | Niet vermeld | Low The Private bridge helps, but contacts still need ginlo Private installed—unlike email or WhatsApp ubiquity. |
When: You need self-hosted collaboration chat with full control of infrastructure
Consider: Nextcloud (Talk) or other self-hosted groupware already in your stack
Fleep is SaaS-only on AWS EU.
When: You need deep Microsoft 365 chat, meetings, and identity integration
Consider: Microsoft Teams
Fleep is independent of M365 but thinner on meetings/Graph.
When: You need the largest integration marketplace and channel-centric workflows
Consider: Slack
Fleep competes on email bridging and simplicity, not ecosystem breadth.
When: You want hosted European groupware with mail/calendar as the core
Consider: Kolab Now
Different product shape: groupware suite vs messenger-first.
When: You need open-source components, MLS roadmap, or private-cloud/on-prem options
Consider: Wire (Swiss secure collaboration)
Wire is commonly shortlisted for enterprise secure messaging with more deployment flexibility than pure SaaS messengers.
When: You already run a self-hosted collaboration hub and want chat inside that stack
Consider: Nextcloud Talk (Germany)
Pairs with Nextcloud Files/Groupware; different product shape than a standalone dual Business/Private messenger.
When: You need mass consumer reach more than organisational sovereignty
Consider: WhatsApp Business or Microsoft Teams
Higher network effects; weaker EU-sovereignty and admin story for sensitive regulated chat.